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Sony PSP: December 12th 2004 $185
Posted by Michael on 27 Oct 2004 - 23:33 161 comments
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That’s when you can get yours and how much you would pay. That is if you live in Japan. Sony today announced the release date and price for its new portable game system. But don’t worry the PSP will arrive in the US in March.

The PSP will launch along with 21 games. The PSP weighs 260 grams, measuring 170 by 74 by 23 millimeters, with a 4.3-inch-wide screen.

The PSP is Sony’s answer to Nintendo’s DS. Although the PSP is 35 dollars more expensive then Nintendo’s new handheld expected to be released November 21st in the US it is expected that the Sony PSP will outsell the Nintendo DS. If it does this will be a drastic blow to Nintendo who has dominated the Gaming Handheld market for years.



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#1 Posted by Guy at 29 Oct 2004 - 19:24 1 Reply Close Replies To This Comment Reply To This Comment  
It's expected to outsell the DS? Says who? DS is already more popular in Japan and is releasing motnhs before the PSP in North America.

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#1.1 Posted by Michael 2 at 16 Dec 2004 - 01:59  
  The DS at the time of your post was already more Popular in Japan then the PSP?

I beleive December 2nd and December 12th Proved your statement wrong.
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#2 Posted by Michael (66431 posts) at 30 Oct 2004 - 03:08 Reply To This Comment  
Says various surveys who show most people will hold out for the PSP over the DS.

A lot of people claimed Sony could never outsell Nintendo when it came to the Gamecube.

And look what happened.

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#3 Posted by Magda at 31 Oct 2004 - 10:48 Reply To This Comment  
The PSP will easily outself the Nintendo DS

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#4 Posted by TnT at 03 Nov 2004 - 19:06 Reply To This Comment  
PSP outsell ds? Sorry, I don't buy it. The psp may be better in some ways but the battery life sucks. That, and it's only coming out in march in us. By then nintendo will have sold over 2 million ds units, maybe even 3 mill. Sony is dead.

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#5 Posted by Michael (66431 posts) at 04 Nov 2004 - 01:26 Reply To This Comment  
They said the same thing about GameCube. People want something thats small and fits in their pocket. THE DS is huge and bulky.

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#6 Posted by SSj3 _ goku at 04 Nov 2004 - 02:20 Reply To This Comment  
LOl pre orders are getting to full gamespot allready stoped. There is no way psp will take out the Ds in sales.

Dont give me the gamecube shit. This is handheld where PSP has to go up against the ds and its 70 dollar GBA sp witch mind you has over 150 million systems sold worldwide.

OVer 2 million DS's will be sold in the frist freaking month its going to be nuts.

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#7 Posted by SSj3 _ goku at 04 Nov 2004 - 02:54 Reply To This Comment  
plus micheal i like to see your surcverys all the ones i have been reading are along the DS more than the psp.

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#8 Posted by SSj3 _ goku at 04 Nov 2004 - 03:12 Reply To This Comment  
Huge and bluky? last time i checked the psp was bigger than the ds. plus psp's screen will greatly get ruined alot easier .

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#9 Posted by take names and kick ass at 06 Nov 2004 - 18:35 Reply To This Comment  
the nintendo Ds is gonna blow the psp apart - psp isnt even in the top 5 hardware list, DS is in second and it isnt even out yet!!! Can any sony fan boys answer to that............no DS is gonna revolutionize while psp is gonna rot


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#10 Posted by MisterMiagi at 07 Nov 2004 - 13:52 Reply To This Comment  
I think that both systems will be successful. People will buy the DS, lots of people - but those people will be younger than those who buy the PSP, in general terms. Talking about the general market, not necessarily people who talk in these kinds of forums, the two products are aimed at essentially different markets. Sure there will be people who are old who buy the DS, and people who are young who buy the PSP - but in general market terms they are apart.

Of course, only time will tell if one ends up "beating" the other - but I think there is potential for them to coexist. It is also a good thing that there is finally going to be competition in the handheld market, forcing better quality products and lower prices. I know that Nintendo has been producing new ideas lately, but if you look at the early gameboy, they sold essentially the same product for well over ten years. Now, you could argue that this indicates a quality product - and sure, it WAS - but competition can only be good for the consumer, as newer, more exciting products at lower prices will appear.

Sony succeeded in wresting control of mainstream gaming in the last generation, and now, at the end part of this generation of consoles, it is Sony and Microsoft. Nintendo fans cannot fail to see that Nintendo is easily the bronze medal - purely in terms of sales (please note Nintendo fans, I am not implying that the Gamecube is a sub-quality system). This blatant attack on Nintendo's home territory in the handheld gaming world will likely, I think, result in a split market - with Nintendo continuing to own the younger market.

I loved Gameboys as a child, and also through my early teens - and I still appreciate Nintendo's continual efforts to bring new ideas and innovation into games - but I also like the prospect of mature games material in a handheld which is offered by the PSP. The features of the PSP such as films and music are also attractive. Nintendo's main argument for not including DVD players and other non-gaming features into the GCN was that it wanted to focus purely on games, and this is a noble aim, but it did, I fear, lose them the battle for control of this generation of consoles.

Personally, I like the look of the PSP, if Sony can reassure me as to the battery life, and I will probably end up getting one. But on the same foot, I can see myself five or so years ago in my very early teens really wanting the DS. As I am now, I am more attracted to the types of games on the PSP, and as such want one more than a DS, but that's not to say that I wouldn't pass up, even now, a game of hectic Wi-Fi Mariokart......

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#11 Posted by Morbiculous at 10 Nov 2004 - 20:45 1 Reply Close Replies To This Comment Reply To This Comment  
does anyone know wen the psp will come out and ow much?

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#11.1 Posted by Michael 2 at 16 Dec 2004 - 01:58  
  March 2005 and for about 189 USD
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#12 Posted by English_Knigget at 11 Nov 2004 - 04:00 Reply To This Comment  
People here are pretty blind. To say Nintendo has lost against XBox and PS2 already, is ignorance. With a sell through of roughly the same ~ 15million units worldwide, there is no third place in consoles - And Xbox fanboys, remember this!

Nintendo has some franchises that other companies - Sony, and MS cannot replace. No matter who they think they are, and so Nintendo will always have a marketable audience of sizeable proportions - Mario, Pokemon, Zelda, and so on. DS will sell fine, to those people, and PSP will sell fine as well to the PS2 likes of this world.

Its MS here that should be worried - they are going to have customers around christmas trying to decide where to put their money - DS, PSP, PS2 Slim, Xbox, GC - with the entry of DS and PSP, the choice for an Xbox, PS2 and GC has then been reduced! While these are different machines, parents dont see that, they see a games machine for xmas at similar proce points. This is the battleground this xmas, and Id watch Xbox sales, I am betting a bit of a serious drop for them.


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#13 Posted by LARRY ABREU at 11 Nov 2004 - 19:19 1 Reply Close Replies To This Comment Reply To This Comment  
I dont care what peple be say about the psp because once it comes its going to distroy the ds in evry way. one the ds grapic is noting compare to the psp .pepole be thinkthat the ds is is better because its going to have that stupid thing that tells the charectors what to do``THAT IS WAK!!!!. Oh and one more thing is that the psp games is gingto be better then the ds games for example METAL GEAR ACID or NEED FOR SPEED UNDERGROUND and for last is GRANDTORISMO4.

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#13.1 Posted by just a bystander at 22 Nov 2004 - 02:37  
  DS has NFS:Underground and metal Gear Acid is a Damn card battle game wich is only fun for Yu-Gi-Oh fans...no offense if you watch Yu-Gi-oh.
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#14 Posted by LARRY ABREU at 11 Nov 2004 - 19:31 Reply To This Comment  
The DS will be a better geme system because i believe that you can chat on the ds . But poor psp cant do that and you can touch the screen um HAaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!! PSP cant do that and you can tell the game what to do. The PSP can't do that either and yes it does matter.Well the PSP can have way better graphic than the DS but guess what the DS will be better because of the things that it be able to do.And one more thing WHO GIVES A HELL ABOUT ALL DOES GAMES THAT WILL COME OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#15 Posted by LARRY ABREU at 11 Nov 2004 - 19:45 Reply To This Comment  
the PSP will come out on march 2005 for those people that would like to know. and the price that i saw was $399.99. ya dont have to beilieve me but its true. And the DS will come out for $199.99 on November 21,2004 but let's thank Nintendo that they lowerd the price down and it will cost $149.99. And that is all. God bless you all and if you want to go to church come to brooklyn the curch will be locate at Locust .st. aND You would see a big american Flag there bye.

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#16 Posted by bobby at 11 Nov 2004 - 23:25 1 Reply Close Replies To This Comment Reply To This Comment  
Whoever thinks ds will outsell the psp is stupid. The ds sucks and the only semi cool thing is the pictochat thing. The psp kicks serious ass u can do way more on it then the ds, u can even watch movies. The psp is goin to outsell the ds by way more!!!

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#16.1 Posted by just a bystander at 22 Nov 2004 - 02:40  
  But the system might shut down near the end of the movie and I'm pretty sure some nerd is gonna find a way to get mp3's and DIVX on the DS. I mean, hell, they did it to the xbox.
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#17 Posted by ssj3_goku at 13 Nov 2004 - 06:11 1 Reply Close Replies To This Comment Reply To This Comment  
^ dude your stupid.. PSP is not even on the top 10 most expected hardware in japan. Ds is number 2 with over 2 million pre orders. and its number 3 in the USA with over 1.5 million pre orders.

Your going to be dissapointed to see the outcome .. DS! all the way. Better games/ more support/ Cooler ideas/

Metal gear solid acid? HAHAHAh yea go play a card game based metal great have fun hahahah.

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#17.1 Posted by peace at 28 Nov 2004 - 22:11  
  Dude what are you talking about. All Nintendo based systems are geared toward little kids...oh wait that must mean your under 18, it all makes sense now. Im not gonna waste the time.
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#18 Posted by Matty at 18 Nov 2004 - 01:18 Reply To This Comment  
the DS is coming out right before the christmas rush, and plus some of the people travelling for the hollidays will want something to do in teh car so they might buy one for that, so i believe between that and all the pre-orders it is going to do VERY well. One thing that i really like about the DS is that it can play gameboy advance games, so not only will nintendo get sales of their new games they will also get old game sales, also, i love the new concepts nintendo is bringing into the gaming comunity. Although i admit the PSP is going to be really really cool, and it will have amazing graphics, its coming out in march, so not many people will be buying it for a holiday, or travelling, and about the dvds, they are going to have to be remade for the PSP onto the smaller disks, or w/e it uses i forget, which means some film makers wont do it because it might not get many sales, and then i kno personally i would want a normal dvd over a dvd that i can only use in my handheld, and also if the battery life on the PSP is as bad as they say, then you might not be able to make it through a whole movie, so i dont see how movies on it is going to be so great.

Anyways in my mind the DS will have a great number of sales, and the PSP will too but i think that the DS will have more.

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#19 Posted by dsfdsfdsf at 21 Nov 2004 - 17:54 Reply To This Comment  
when does this come out in the usa

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#20 Posted by just a bystander at 22 Nov 2004 - 02:29 Reply To This Comment  
well, history lesson to everyone out there. There have been many companies that tried to overthrow nintnedo in the handheld gaming industry that have claimed better graphics and more features: Neo geo pocket, Game gear, wonderswan, etc. they all failed because ppl want simplicity when it comes to handheld gaming. the PSP will be like the game gear and hang with the DS for a year or more but will eventually falter, why because the PSP will be like a Swiss army knife, it has alot of bells and whistles but it will not be great in any one department. DS is concentrated to one thing, gaming. If I wanted to watch a movie, I have a DVD player. listen to bootleg music? a computer. my point is the PSP will falter because it is a jack of all trades which seems odd but in the long run makes sense. and the DS looks upgradeable with the cartridges and I'm pretty sure some nerd from Georgia Tech will figure out a way to get MP3 and DIVX clips to play on the DS.

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#21 Posted by jak at 22 Nov 2004 - 22:05 Reply To This Comment  
when is the psp cumin out? before christmas right?

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#22 Posted by To bad DS fans............. at 23 Nov 2004 - 01:58 Reply To This Comment  
it seems you are very mistaken. The PSP will have a base model just under 200(released in Japan at just under 185-on the current exchange rate(i dont think that will vary much))and a Value Pack at 235(1800mah LI-ION batt, soft case, 32mb flash drive(mem Stik Duo)----i believe the DS is under 800mah--- putting the PSP run time 4-6 gaming and 4-5 hours on the movies(runs on the new mini disk that stores 1.5@GB------(insert "damn, why did i waste 150 bucks on this stupid DS)-------. The DS has failed to produce a good launch in the game stance, there are corny remakes and half way descent racing games. You will wake up one day and forget the old Nintendo pride, the fact is they cant compete with the DS.
The Psp, with no doubt offers better graphics, better games, and yes just like the Ds Wireless mulitplayer and USB(variant) multiplayer. I'm sorry you wasted your money on the DS. You might be able to trade it in for a few bucks towards the PSP...?GrandTurismo, Project Interceptor, Need For Speed, the liste goes on of the games that are planned for the release early 2005. Hope you wake up Ds owners.

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#23 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 26 Nov 2004 - 02:23 Reply To This Comment  
The ds is definetly going to beat out the psp!!!! I mean the ds is comin before christmas and the psp isnt. Nothin will be better than the ds. Sony has never made a handheld system before I mean do u really trust their first time makin a handheld. the psp will also be way more money. by the time the psp comes out the ds will have sold hundreds of systems. no i mean thousands of sytems. so to all of those psp fans get a better life or go kill urself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#24 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 26 Nov 2004 - 02:50 Reply To This Comment  
o yeah by the way for all of u people who dont know the psp is coming out at the end of march. in 2005 and i will check again but i dont think thats before christmas!!!!!!!! so many people will have the ds before the psp even comes out and most people dont need 2 handhelds, besides the ds will be way better. does the psp have have 2 screens no how about voice recongnition no how about touch screens that u can use with a stylus or ur finger, nope the psp dosnt have any of them. thats only a couple of reasons why the ds is better than the psp. So psp fans i will laugh in ur faces when i have my ds and ur still waiting months later for ur precious psp, and when u get it u reliaze u made a mistake in buying the psp because u know the ds is way better.

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#25 Posted by just a bystander at 27 Nov 2004 - 10:35 Reply To This Comment  
just to clear things up about the PSP playing DVDs. NO it will not play DVDs because the drive format is UMD a "new" sony creation which looks a hella lot like the failed Minidisk format. so you PSP fans that plan on taking you precious battery sucking PSP on road trips to watch DVDs, better start saving to buy the same movies in UMD format. Also, the MP# thing really is a gimmick. I recently purchased the 32 mb memory stick from sony to see how many MP3 songs I could fit on it...8. 8 frickin songs. Don't try to compare the PSP to an Ipod because the Ipod has a 20 gig hard drive. that is why the Ipod can hold like 8 million songs. ppl if you raise your expectations too high then your gonna get burnt. I did with the DS and even it is not all its cracked up to be. oh yeah and if you live in the middle georgia area catch my show. GameTalk on Macon 13 WAMZ where you can find my latest review about the DS

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#26 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 27 Nov 2004 - 16:54 Reply To This Comment  
wassup yall,have u seen the graphics on the demo of the ds yet. the metroid prime hunters demo i mean they are amazing and the demo comes with it when u buy it. i mean ill take a demo any time with the system i buy because most systems dont. the graphics are amazing for a handheld. the psp would maybe sell more if it was coming out before christmas. the ds is comin out before christmas which is another reason why it is going to sell better than the psp beside the fact that the ds is way better in games and graphics.


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#27 Posted by Matty at 02 Dec 2004 - 04:11 Reply To This Comment  
Personally i am loving the DS, and about the games, there are over 100 games that are supposed to come out next year, now i dont kno if they all will, but i can still buy hundreds of gameboy advance games while im waiting, hey, i could even get a couple of the gameboy advance video things, then, wait, im watching, MOVIES on my DS, so whats so special about the PSP, i kno for sure htat i wouldnt waste money on the UMD formats, i will buy real DVDs and watch them, and, personally, i love hte graphics on the DS, they are better than the Nintendo 64, and considering, those graphics are quite good, and around here where i live, its hard to fine a DS because they are just about all sold out, and whats this, the PSP hasnt even been released yet.... wow, sonys off to a good start in the handheld market

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#28 Posted by Zack at 02 Dec 2004 - 20:40 1 Reply Close Replies To This Comment Reply To This Comment  
Honestly I don't like the Nintendo DS because it has two screen. I went to the Wal Mart store and try out the Nintendo DS and I has to look at two screen same time while I am playing the game, and most of the games cut half of the graphic animation picture in two pictures, and I have to look at two screens same time to watch the graphic animation of the game in the Nintendo DS. The PSP has only one screen, which I can watch at one thing and control in same place, not two. I would perfer PSP better. Also in fact, I saw the previews of PSP comparison to Nintendo DS, my opinion is that PSP is better. Also wisely, I am not going to buy Nintendo DS even though it was already arrived. I think it is more wise to buy PSP because it don't have any stupid accessoriable like "Drawing the E-mails" which people don't want to use for their handheld games. Also the Nintendo DS will charge the monthly bills for that e-mail system, but PSP probably won't. Also the Nintendo DS don't have enough of backlights so I can see the screen clearly myself. I rather to wait for PSP. Thanks for listen.

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#28.1 Posted by The PSP kicks ass!!!!!! at 24 Mar 2005 - 17:03  
  The DS sucks and the psp is better I do not care what you say

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#29 Posted by bobchilly at 03 Dec 2004 - 02:53 2 Replies Close Replies To This Comment Reply To This Comment  
i just got the xbox portable from austria it coll it was 300 but it is worth it it is not even out yet and wont for 2 years

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#29.1 Posted by raider at 03 Dec 2004 - 08:13  
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#29.2 Posted by bobchilly at 03 Dec 2004 - 13:54  
  i really wish there was a xobx potable but ill have to wait
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#30 Posted by just a bystander at 03 Dec 2004 - 08:08 Reply To This Comment  
both systems cannot, contrary to popular belief, cannot connect to a wirless network and get internet access. the wireless features in the two systems act like a LAN line so that ppl within 100 feet from you can join multiplayer games. the E-mail chat thing is a chat room for ppl within 100 feet from your DS and not an e-mail account. by the way Zack, Nintendo dosn't even have online on the Gamecube and on Phantasy star you pay Sega and not nintendo.
P.S. If any corporation is trying to suck our money out of our pockets then they are Microsoft and Sony.

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#31 Posted by bobchilly at 03 Dec 2004 - 13:51 Reply To This Comment  
psp is the best i dont know whats wrong with you people but get a brain


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#32 Posted by bobchilly at 03 Dec 2004 - 13:53 Reply To This Comment  
i was oking about the xobox potable but i wish there was one

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#33 Posted by Zack at 03 Dec 2004 - 16:11 1 Reply Close Replies To This Comment Reply To This Comment  
Just a Bystander, if the Nintendo DS is not online handheld, then why I see the pictures of the Nintendo DS with the e-mail screens with the drawn smile face? And also not only Sony or Mircosoft are money sucker, ALL of the company are money suckers. All they want is money, that is why their business is so "ECOMONIC". Also in fact, Nintendo have worked hard for many years, and may I ask, what do they want? They want the money to successful their business. Money is the key to surivive the business. All of the companies are the money suckers. Also I never had heard about Xbox Portable... Also I think it is waste of time using the touchable screen because I was at the Wal Mart, I stare at the pen on the Nintendo DS and simply drop it and use the regular controller. And I am not here to argue about those stupid games, I just want to post my opinion, not fighting. I am not owner of the video games. Also the reason why the PSP was not in the Top 10 is because they haven't gettin the PSP in pre-orders or shipped yet. But if they already released or pre-ordered, the PSP would be one of the Top 10 list. Also the reason why the Game Cube is so much cheaper than Playstation 2 is because Game Cube don't have playable of DVD player, and has to buy other machine for the DVD player on the Game Cube. That is all what I thought. I just don't want to fight. *smile* thanks for listen

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#33.1 Posted by raider at 04 Dec 2004 - 05:04  
  the pics you are seeing is the pictochat feature on the DS. when I first opened my DS I thought it could connect to a wirless hub but sadly not. although it does recognize the hub. the picto chat feature only works if there is another DS within 100 feet of your DS. meaning you could pass notes in class but not when your buddy is in chicago and you are in Atlanta. hopefully a third party group will come out with a cartridge that allows you to email from the DS. and the PSP looks great and felt great in my hands but the one flaw I felt on the PSP at the Tokyo Game Show was that the demo PSP's Anolog stick did not retract like I hoped so the thing wouldn't break in my carry on when I go on trips to...Tokyo. Hopefully the final version has a way to protect the anolog stick from any damage. and you are right about the Pre orders on the PSP. and I understand what economics are and what i meant was that nintendo releases add-ons that you don't need but enhance your game play. microsoft mainly releases bugged items and software that require upgrading and with sony, they release consoles like the PS2 slim...that I bought even though I have a PS2 already. I know nintendo does that to that's why I have all three consoles.
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#34 Posted by just a bystander at 05 Dec 2004 - 02:52 Reply To This Comment  
he took the words right out of my mouth


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#35 Posted by STeveo vamp at 06 Dec 2004 - 03:02 Reply To This Comment  
Hey, You guys need to get the facts straight and do your research in mags and so on. Look Sony has been the top leading new generation provider in gaming since 3-d times. It has shown quality and great support of it's sytem. I have grown up on sony. I was six when i got my first playstaton and the graphics were steller and the cg scenes are still top notch on that old system. I thinkt that we shouldn't keep on trying to get new systems out all and make the game quality better before we move on. But this sony going into handheld will be awesome. It has been my fream forever. The psp is not only goign to stomp ds in older viewings, it will also appeal more to developers. It has a technology that automatically rounds squares into polygons. It will take half the work to develope a game than what we have been creatign them at. Which means that the psp will have hundreds of titles after people realize this. I played the ds at best buy the other day. It was only half as appealing as the psp seems. It was very small to my hands. My hands cramped after the first few mintues of play. The buttons are very close and the d-pad is small. I think this system is made for little kids hands. plus when i was playing metroid. I had to use the touch-pad while trying to make the charecter turn into a ball and move in other directions that the d-pad is allowing your charecter to move. You practically need three hands to do everythign that the games are askign you for and it was frustrating. You will definatly need tsome skill just to handkle the systems controls. I don't think I will buy the system untill I see how the psp is. But i love only mario on the ds and i love basically abotu every singl;e game made on the playstation. Playsation has my vote and my cousins votew because we love playstation more than any other console. IT has shown it's own support in graphics and hasn't relied much on any company to help make graphics and as long as they keep on relying ont hemself for graphics I thinkt hey will do just fine. I don't think x-box and nintendo will be able to keep up because they have support with ati and I don't think that shows good signs for future systems. BEcause sonys ps3 so far as it goes. there is no comp that can keep up with their new ideas. So i would say watch out thrd generation 3-d gaming. There is an old name out to prove everyone wrong. Just because nintendo has been out three gaming systems longer doesn't mean sony is bad. It means it's greater in every aspect and is thinking way beyond the outside of everyone elses box. Alls they need to do is get game developers to see that. Why doy ou thinkt hat they create awesoem game sont heir own , just to show developers the true power of their system.

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#36 Posted by STeveo vamp at 06 Dec 2004 - 03:07 Reply To This Comment  
Honestly, I think nintendo needs to grow up soem before they rerelaease nay new system after thsi ds and realize things are very hard allreayd on them int he market.

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#37 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 07 Dec 2004 - 03:04 Reply To This Comment  
u guys r dumbasses!!!!!!!!!! u retarts who can wach both screens need to get ur eyes checked because u only need to wach 1. Would u trust psp, i mean this will be sony's first handheld system. it may be better but i wont buy it. besides th fact the psp is more money so all u psp fans go kill urself or go screw urself. p.s. or ur mom


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#38 Posted by balla at 10 Dec 2004 - 17:51 Reply To This Comment  
I dont understand why you guys are getting mad over a game why dont you just pick one and shut the fuck up


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#39 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 11 Dec 2004 - 17:11 Reply To This Comment  
why dont u just shut the fuck up balla, and go fuck ur mom!!!!!!!!!!!!


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#40 Posted by PSP WILL ROCK at 12 Dec 2004 - 06:19 Reply To This Comment  
The DS would never outsell the PSP. Most of these people going pro DS are hardcore Nintendo fans and oldschool gamers. Despite the fact Sony traditionally releases later than Nintendo statistics show Sony always ends out dominating on top! Even though Sony is much newer to the gaming scene relative to Nintendo, Sony always prooves more popular. I've played the DS and it is just my OPINION that the DS could have been much better, I was not very impressed with it's akward design and under par graphics. By the way, you can not judge graphics by screen shots on the internet. DS looks like Nintendo 64 games, which mostly failed horribly. After seeing the actual, yes in REAL life a Sony PSP. The graphics appear to be near that the level of the PS2. Sweet! Sony PSP also has compatibility with WiFi 800.11G wireless, MP3 Files, they are releasing movies on UMD(sonys PSP format), and compatibility with Sony Memory Sticks. Also has onboard 1.5GB storage. I'm sorry DS fans (I also happen to be a hardcore Mario fan) but PSP will most deffinatly dominate. Just look into history. Nintendo (N64 and later) systems have all failed.

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#41 Posted by Handheld Freak at 13 Dec 2004 - 02:23 Reply To This Comment  
Alright, I'v heard alot about battery life and so on yada yada yada. First of all who plays a GBA or DS for 10 hours straight to begin with. Second of all, nintendo just made a move that again distroys its chances of keeping up with the competition. I remeber when they decided to stick with carts for the 64 and who swept them away. SONY DID. . .

Nintendo is not a big people toy, SONY IS.

Nintendo's major fault is that they stick to technology that they already know. Im glad that the DS has some really neat features like chat rooms but its only a matter of time before sony drops an add on (USB PORT)... Also its awesome that it has a great battery life but SONY took that into account and did what nintendo should have done. GONE TO CD, one mistake that cost them there place in the console market may bite them in the @ss again in the handheld market.

But then again, SONY and NINTENDO are after two different market all together.... I'v said my peace

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#42 Posted by mystery Man at 13 Dec 2004 - 03:41 Reply To This Comment  
all of yall are who hate on ds are dumbassess because when i played it in metroid prime in bestbuy it was actually easier to aim wit the screen than a regular controller because it was easier to slide your finger to the target than to guide using a d pad plus psp only has one so i fill sorry for people who like shooting games

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#43 Posted by Handheld Freak at 13 Dec 2004 - 03:51 Reply To This Comment  
True, shooting games are going to be tough on the psp. But still, sony has been great with making use of what they have. Allthough a second thumb stick would have been nice. But that genre is the only up side in game play the ds has.

PSP STILL PLAYS MOVIES AND MP3's .... hahahahahahahha HA!

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#44 Posted by Handheld Freak at 13 Dec 2004 - 03:53 Reply To This Comment  
On top of that it has software upgrades meaning that a phone book and email support might not be that far fetched of an idea down the road. I'm not saying that DS wont but it is mostly for kids.

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#45 Posted by mystery Man at 13 Dec 2004 - 04:20 Reply To This Comment  
but i dont thinm so because the psp dosent really have nothing on there inovative its just a playstation 2 shrunk down i to a a minnie game but the ds on the other hand has some features un heard of in the handheld world but who is really in there right mind going to go out there way to by thosespecial dvds so you can watch dvds on i say why watch on a 6 inch screen when you can get a tv or a portable dvd player for $199.00 that comes wit a bigger screen i dont see my self even getting that thing even thow i have the money because i think its a scam but im nothhing but a person who likes to kill eveything on the screen so thats another reason why im not getting the only way youll be able to play a game like 007 is with auto aim which i find pretty boring but im not trying to rip on psp but if i was all of yall i would try something new and just not a game boy knock off wit ps2 graphics

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#46 Posted by Handheld Freak at 13 Dec 2004 - 05:34 Reply To This Comment  
Dont you get it, that is the inovation a ps2 in ur hand..

You have a good point with the movies but if u have looked at it the screen is not that much smaller then a good priced dvd portable. Granted you might only be able to watch like two movies before it goes dead. But maybe square enix might make more movies which i hope they do. I'm a fan of CGI movies. ould you imagine a DBZ movie CGI ooooooooooooooooooo the violence!

My point is that nintendo could have made the graphics better with all thos sweet features on it. And you have to admit that it is a bit uncomfortable to hold. The bast chasis they ever made was the original advance.

Dont get me wrong i love nintendo i grew up on there games. But sony just makes better games for an older crowd. Personaly i just want to play need for speed underground whenever i want...lol

Im not expecting shooters to be fun in all honesty but raceing, RPG's, and fighters should be nice.

You hold up a good argument tho MYSTERY MAN. You can do alot of neat things with the DS, but are you really expecting to be in a chat room that often with it? The older crowd will love the psp, Think about the mp3 play back and the camera feature they are working on. The USB port will allow the PSP to do alot that the DS wont be able to do.

And not for nothing i played metroid without the stylus and after a while it plays pretty well u just have to get used to it. im asuming thats how the PSP will get around not having the second dialog stick.


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#47 Posted by Handheld Freak at 13 Dec 2004 - 05:39 Reply To This Comment  
O and reading up on battery life it does get up to about 5-6 hours. Not bad for a disc based system and im sure as they start to use the memory cards more efficiantly the bat time will go up since it wont have to load from the disk as much

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#48 Posted by Handheld Freak at 13 Dec 2004 - 05:40 Reply To This Comment  
O YEA AND HALO HAS AUTO AIM AND IT DOESNT SUCK

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#49 Posted by Handheld Freak at 13 Dec 2004 - 06:47 Reply To This Comment  
O yea and one more thing, whats so inovative about taking an n64 hack and cramming it down into a handheld, and adding some wireless features. and a second screen. hmmm not to inovative, the only thing it has inovative is the touch screen.

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#50 Posted by mystery man at 13 Dec 2004 - 16:31 Reply To This Comment  
but i just dont see it because i have three cells wit cameras so why do i need that one and im pretty sure they show better than that because i have the new nokia wit video camera and i have the ericsson wit camera plus the moto wit camera but note only why i have this is because they use the same sim card so why would i need there camera for plus mp3 playback hmmmmm that like the only really good feature is that because if you want you an mp3 player it will peobably start 50.00 and up so thats one good quality but just amagine what they can do with this thing because they have a lot of experience i think that the ds is not finished they are probably gone to have some add on that are going to blow psp out the water plus i know some little nerd is going to fiond away how to show movies using the ds cards or probably even music ones and your right halo has auto aim and it kicks ass but wit out it on that game youll be up the shit creek wit out a paddle but racing games it will probably be coo0l wit out a map but i think the second screen showing the map will be kind of cool but who cares i think 007 on ds is going to be on fire because i remeber the old one on 64 was tight i still play that even thow i have all the newest systems plus a good computer for gaming and you cant tell me that you didnt play 64's 007 and didnt like it that was the game back den but from what i seen ds 150.00 the psp 250.00 to 300.00 now which one will the majority by ds and plus psp dosent come out to march so who going to been sold more the ds and i want to play the game wit more users so i have a lot of opponets so i can smash while im down town note i live in chicago so you know there aint nobody buying that thing when they can get something like that


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#51 Posted by mystery man at 13 Dec 2004 - 16:46 Reply To This Comment  
plus when i played metroid prime with my finger nad it played good it was fast and crisp i almost wanted to take it off the stand at bestbuy and tell them sell me this one because man they were sold out every where i mean every where so i think the psp is not going to catch up if it keeos the price where it a 300.00 they wont see me in line plus im a ps2 fan and when they came out with this i was like crap what are they thinking they think a lot of people are really going to buy that dont think so plus if you want to play need for spped play it on your home system because why pay 50.00!!!!!!!!! for the the psp version when you can buy one for the home at the same price plus note i rather play it on a big screen than to have to get glasses looking at that little screen plus i think it came out at the wrong time because most people got mp3 playes that are really small and most people have camera phones and you know thisand you know the psp is not going to stop any one from getting a cell phone wit a camera and note thats mostly all they sell know iscamera phonesso i rather have a phone wit service than to have that thing it not like i can talk on the thing plus all those games are remakes of the ones they already had on ps2 but i think to ds has to wake up and put some more shooting games on it and if they do psp will be in a load of crap because mostly thats what everybody plays a game wit a lot of blood splattering evry where and shot gun shells taking off peoples heads if ds puts a title likeunreal tournament on it or half life on it game over!!!!

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#52 Posted by Handheld Freak at 13 Dec 2004 - 17:30 Reply To This Comment  
Bottom line is that people are going to fall in love with the PSP for the Grfx. And no prices have been posted for the psp games as of yet. And i am sure that the PSP will not sell for more than 200 in order to keep up with the DS.

But like i said the PSP is for a different market all together. Thats why the DS is so small its not for adults its for kids. And keep dreaming about seeing blood on a DS nintendo does not allow it. They specifically said that there systems are for younger crowds and dislike violent games.

The PSP is manly designed for high school and up. And yes kids in that age bracket will buy it knowing games like mortal combat and gran tourismo will be coming out for it. And mind you the connectivity with the PS2 and PS3 have not been mentioned yet but they do plan on it.

The mic feature on the DS is cool, but i dout ill see people in the mall sitting around chatting up a storm with the DS thats what cell phones are for.

Again my point is that it is going to attract a different market then the DS is going to attract. Tru having a scond screen will make game play a bit more interesting but it depends on the developer and how they decide on useing that second screen. Plus games are going to be made easier and faster on a PSP than a DS. The technology the PSP is packing is already backed up by most developers. Where as the DS isnt.

The PSP will make great use of what it has and im sure if you read on IGN.COM you'll see that the system is gorgeous and the guys over at IGN are loving every minute of it.



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#53 Posted by mystery man at 13 Dec 2004 - 20:29 Reply To This Comment  
yeah i read ign it says the same stuff about ds plus you talk about the camera for the psp one could probably be made for the ds to it dosent seem farfetched at all plus you talk about bloody game what is resident evil a cool aid game so you tell me on game cube the red stuff is cool aid and not blood from blowing some ones head off all yeah i can name antoher on called call of Duty it a pretty good VIOLENT!!!!! GAME IF I SAY SO MYSELF all yeah all the 007 series it might not of had that much blood but it was still violent all yeah you said it wouldnt be no violence the most featured game is violent metroid prime all that shooting you do in that game come on know plus even on the nintendo sitre they say there trying to capture more mature audiences like teens that are in high school but all yeah plus what about zelda its violent and youre telling me somebody walking around with a big blade with the intent to kill is not violent plus i heard rumors of xenosaga coming out on the ds all yeah plus for gamecube mortal combat deception is coming out for it know what you got to say about bloody games all yeah the psp usb port let me talk about that to uunhhhhhh ds has the thing where you stick the cardtridges in im willin to bet you you can do things with that like a camera probably an fm tuner so dont single it out the ds is capable of being modified just like the psp cuz i thin a cardtridge port can do the same things because i have a pocket pc and it has a cardtridge port and thats exactly where my attachable camera goes all yeah and note i have a casio E-150 i think because its a pretty new one and please dont say that you cant use a cardtridge port like you would use a the psp port plus how you know they arent working on the feature to only difference i see between both of them is graphics wise but the ds makes up wit the screen

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#54 Posted by Handheld Freak at 13 Dec 2004 - 21:20 Reply To This Comment  
1) 007 goldeneye was the best out of all after that they all sucked.
2) Resident evil just started coming out for the game cube. Lucky them that the developer decided to work with there software.
3) All you have to say is "it has the second screen" But guess what we have been playing with handhelds without a second screen for years now and having a second screen is no big shit.
4) As always nintendo is trying to get intop violent games after SONY has already beating them. Like ussual they come into the game too late. First with making cartriges instead of cd's for the N64. And now they do the same with adult video games.

There was a point when they swore them off. But now that they see SONY and MICRSOFT is making more money off them they want a piece of the action.

Gues what buddy your proclaimed GAMECUBE will probably be the last console they will make. Less and less developers want to make games for it.

Most of NINTENDO's profit comes from its handheld market not the console. Say bye bye to the nintendo console because if another one is released it wont sand a chance against the upcoming PS3 and next gen X-BOX.

Nintendo does not have the developers to compete with SONY or MICROSOFT. Face it man, NINTENDO is on it's last legs. If the DS doesnt do what is expected of it the company will just develop games like SEGA. Look up there stock ticker man, the stock has been gradually declining the past 5-7 years. And this has been discussed with them already and they agreed, if they cant keep up in the console wars they will go to developing games and stop making consoles.

And i'm a pc tech man and you cant do that much with a cart slot. First off it doesnt have the bandwidth of a USB. And your compairing a pocket pc micro pcmcia slot to a game cart slot. You have no idea what your talking about.

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#55 Posted by mystery man at 13 Dec 2004 - 22:02 Reply To This Comment  
ok mister so tell me what this is and yes this is what goes to my pocket pc just put this in search hewlett packard jornada compactflash digital camera module mister dumb ass youre going to tell me that they cant make camerea to put in that slot when my 599.00 pocket pc has one and you cant tell me that because i have some of the best tech here i havew top of the line graphics for com all the systems made since atari more cell phones than i know what vto do with and so tell me why my pocket pc has the camera attachment from what i see its not a usb slot but suprise its a card slot and yes im comparing because there was a camera on a game boy and i just confirmed it if you want the site just ask and plus wit the ds it sholud show better so how the fuck i dont know what i talking about when i have the proof right here from the site but do something for me that long name i gave you up there type it in the search tool bar and ill repeat it again(hewlett packard jornada compactflash digital camera module) all yeah here the old game boy camera site since you dont believe me (http://www.ruleofthirds.com/gameboy/ now eat that plus i didnt say nothing about gamecube was succeding i was just using as a prime example of shooters and viloence but they have more just dont want to take the time to name more all yeah im kind of a pc tech i can fix them and i aint even been tru college and i think with a little bit more knoledge ill be doing somethig pretty great.all yeah i dont really like gamecube im more a ps2 man or xbox but i just think that this piece of hard where will take my gaming experience father cuz im tyred of playing the same damn games all damn day so i dont see the psp being for me i might just get one just to have dought if ill ever use it and all yeah duhh i know gamecube is not going to stand a chance against the next generation sytems like ps3 and xbox3 because i heard that ps3 is suppose toi have real life grafix but i laugh at you if you think the psp is better all it is is better grafix and mediacoverage who cares get real dude mostly verbody has that tech already plus steering of the point at hand are we

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#56 Posted by mystery man at 13 Dec 2004 - 22:20 Reply To This Comment  
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#57 Posted by Handheld Freak at 13 Dec 2004 - 22:22 Reply To This Comment  
AGAIN MY POINT TWO DIFFERENT MARKETS ARE BEING AIMED AT WITH THESE TWO SYSTEMS.

THEY ARENT EVEN IN A COMPETITION

BUT HEY IF U WANT TO LOOK LIKE AN ASS TALKING TO YOUR HANDHELD PLAYING A GAME GO FOR IT MAN.... I DOUT YOU'LL GET ANY ASS LIKE THAT LMAO

AND YOUR COMPAIRING TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF HARDWARE. POCKET PC'S HAVE THE POWER TO USE HI REZ CAM ATTACHMENTS NOT THIS LITTLE DS HANDHELD. AND IF YOUR GOING TO ARGUE THAT THE PSP WONT BE ABLE TWO. ID HATE TO DISAPPOINT YOU BUT THE PROCESSOR IS FAST ENOUGH TO PILOT A PLANE. I'V DONE THE RESEARCH AND ALL IN ALL THE PSP HAS MORE POWER THEN THE DS. BUT THE DS IA AFTER A DIFFERENT MARKET ALL TOGETHER.

HOW OLD ARE YOU 18, AS INNOVATIVE AS THE DS IS AND IT IS USING TECHNOLOGY NEVER USED BY ANY OTHER HANDHELD. WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE HOW THEY USE.

I'M NOT SAYING PSP IS GOING TO RULE IM JUST SAYING THAT PSP WILL OPEN EYES AND NINTENDO BETTER BE READY WITH SOME SICK GAMES TO COMPETE.

AND THE PRICE FOR THE GAMES IS JUST AS MUCH AS THE DS AND THE SYSTEM IS SLATED TO BE 199 IN THE US. 50 MORE, WHICH I THINK IS WELL WORTH THE QUALITY OF GAMES THEY ARE RELEASEING.

ON THE FIRST DAY 173,000 UNITS WERE SOLD. SONY DIDNT EVEN THINK THEY WOULD SELL THAT MUCH ESTIMATING 500,000 BY JAN 1ST 2005.

AGAIN THEY ARENT COMPETEING FOR THE HANDHELD MARKET IT'LL BE UP TO THE CONSUMER TO DECIDE WHICH IS WORTH KEEPING. AND I HAVE NO DOUT THAT BOTH WILL BE AROUND FOR AWHILE BEFORE ONE DROPS OUT THE RACE.

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#58 Posted by Handheld Freak at 13 Dec 2004 - 22:25 Reply To This Comment  
and its not a compact flash unit on the ds man. and what kid is going to want that for anyways. ITS FOR KIDS

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#59 Posted by Handheld Freak at 13 Dec 2004 - 22:26 Reply To This Comment  
O and by the way the camera didnt sell. Images were terrible. I have a gameboy and that is not a COMPACT FLASH slot.

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#60 Posted by Handheld Freak at 13 Dec 2004 - 22:45 Reply To This Comment  
LOL , your kinda of a pc tech. so u are a kid

O man, dude grow up do some home work and then come argue.

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#61 Posted by mystery man at 14 Dec 2004 - 00:26 Reply To This Comment  
naw wrong i dont do it all the time thats what i mean by kinda a pc tech because believe it or not im 19 but my life is not as glamourous as yours sound because i have to gang bang to get bye so thats why i say kinda of and all psp got is mp3 and movie playback not so innovatve to me just a piece of crap in my eye and something the compact flash thing is for me pocket pc you idiot i see you didnt read right else you would of none hmmmm fast enough to pilot a plane uyuhhh do i look like a pilot to you so what point is that wow the proccesor is so damn fast cry me a river who cares and plus that was the old one they could come up wit a better one duuhhhh but i getting both i still say that ds will own it any day you put up a good argue ment but not good enough and tell me you little bitch how could you talk in public any wa yi think it would be to much noise plus it would be the same as talikg to youre side kick or that nokia QD so what youre point hhhmmmmm but let me take you back what about the gameboy color proccessor it had a camera plus youre talking about a camera dude GET REAL MOSATLY EVERYBODY HAS A CELL PHONE NOW A DAYS SO GET IN TO THE FUTURE as low as the cells are now come on thats probably one of the top gifts for christmas a cell plus lets just see which one cells and which one is the loser (even thow ill have both)but psp will crash and burn but i dont get about the proccessor part who cares like youre really going to fly one wit it and wit those controlls dont see it happen hmmm but ds it woulb a easy task wit its controlls but i forgot it dosent have a fast enouhg processor

but ds it would be a easy task wouldnt but that proccesor isnt fast enough you must be a little kidf who dosentown a phone dont own a mp3 player and asked big daddy to get you that which he has to save up for two months to afford i feel for really i do not!!!! but youre not going to get no ass haveing that either



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#62 Posted by mystery man at 14 Dec 2004 - 00:30 Reply To This Comment  
and all i got to say is be a dumb ass and get it youll regret it when that
shit fails and ds kick ass but you did put up a good argument i got to give you that but i getting ds peace out

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#63 Posted by Michael (66431 posts) at 14 Dec 2004 - 03:39 Reply To This Comment  
The DS is out in the US and is doing pretty well but you guys gotta admit a lot of people are holding out for the PSP.

Also the PSP and the DS are both out in Japan. The DS did horrible in its Japan Launch and the PSP extreamly well.

Has anyone seen the PSP Graphics????

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#64 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 14 Dec 2004 - 23:13 Reply To This Comment  
u fuckin dumbass michael of course the ds did bad in japan, the psp came out way before the ds did in japan. they didnt give the ds a chance. by the way i just got my ds it fucking rules!!!!!!!!!!!! madden is my favorite game for it right now. plus nintendo has made 6 handheld systems and how many has sony made???? let me think zero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! also does anybody have the urbz sims in the city for the ds????? its awseome but how the hell do u buy stuff from the catalogs???????? please tell me!!!!!!!!!!!!! P.S im a hardcore Ps2 fan and i also have asphalt urban gt racing for the ds.

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#65 Posted by Michael (66431 posts) at 15 Dec 2004 - 00:56 Reply To This Comment  
Now who is the Dumbass DS Rules person?

December 2nd te DS was release in Japan. Deceber 11th PSP was released.

Mind you the Japan DS launch had more games then the US DS launch.

I have a DS as well but I would really be a dumbass to say the DS is better.

I have the URBz and yesterday I beat the game pissed daddy big bucks off.

If you have asphalt urban gt for the DS then you are also aware that it is one of the buggiest games available. The miami races in the championship mode only last 1 lap even though they are 3 laps.

I have for my DS
SM64 DS
URBz
Feel the Magic
Mr Driller
Madden 2005
Spider Man 2
Urban Asphalt

And all I have to say is the screen shots I have seen for the same games on the PSP make me want to cry.

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#66 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 15 Dec 2004 - 01:05 Reply To This Comment  
The psp will probably be good but for right now im stickin with my ds. Michael how the hell do u buy stuff from the catalog for ur house. i cant buy anything and i need a tv so please tell me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for urbz sims in the city P.S. have u played ridge racer and is sm64 any good


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#67 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 15 Dec 2004 - 01:13 Reply To This Comment  
michael r u there??????????

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#68 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 15 Dec 2004 - 23:50 Reply To This Comment  
will someone tell me how to buy stuff out of the catalogs from urbz i mean i need to wach tv and i need to talk to people but i cant because i cant find a tv. i dont know how to buy for my house either so will someone with the ds and urbz please tell me now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#69 Posted by Michael 2 at 16 Dec 2004 - 01:56 Reply To This Comment  
Hi I am here
You can't buy it from the catalog you have to go to the internet cafee or one of the stores.

The first store you can buy stuff from is the store near the buss in Urbania. Just walk inside and hit the B button near the counter.

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#70 Posted by just a bystander at 16 Dec 2004 - 07:05 Reply To This Comment  
Good news DS fans!!! Nintendo just announced that they will be latter releasing a perifrieal that fits into the GBA slot and alows the DS to playback MP3/Mpeg4 files onto the DS. This upgrade was put inplace because alot of ppl liked the feture on the PSP so Nintendo naturally retaliates. Also the are releasing a TV tuner for the DS...remember the Tuner for the good ole' Gamegear? more cool upgrades are in the works and we should be expecting the upgrade in late december or early january.

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#71 Posted by mystery msn at 16 Dec 2004 - 13:40 Reply To This Comment  
is that true just a bystander i didnt think they would have that for the ds what web site did you hear it from?

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#72 Posted by Michael (66431 posts) at 16 Dec 2004 - 17:19 Reply To This Comment  
Its true mystery man Nintendo is releasing an adapter.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle....storyID=7100562

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#73 Posted by just a bystander at 16 Dec 2004 - 18:01 Reply To This Comment  
Hey gamers, just got my hands on the new PSP. The battery life is acceptable and on a full charge the battery indicator read 5 hours. not a whole lot compared to the DS but it is better than the projected 2 hours. however, I'm still wondering how it would perform with the movies or the higher graphics of more advanced games. sadly I only got to play Majong fight club. The memory stick can play the mp3's and an mpeg's. the dashboard is where you launch everything. The cool thing is the calender changes colors with the months. the screen is huge and scratchable. when you buy this thing buy some screen guards too. The screen is also very bright and crisp. Also the thing can get pretty heavy. almost 10 ounces on the scale. Also Sony anounced that, like the DS, the PSP would be region free. It's not. this means with the DS you can play Japanese and european games on the american DS. the PSP is alot like the consoles where you can only play American games on the American PSP. :( All in all the PSP is pretty cool but it did not live up to the hype that was buzzing around the office. and neither did the DS. I own the DS and will probably be geting the PSP when it is released in March because its free for me. but, for you gamers out there that don't get the best things in life for free, buy a PS2 slim and a mobile screen. The portable basically has re-releases of classic PS2 games. and for you RPG fans out there, it looks like square-enix is backing the DS. don't believe me? check the square-enix website. I guess its all in the cards that both systems can co-exsist but if it was my decision I would pick the DS eventhough the thing is more of a bitch to hold than the PSP.

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#74 Posted by Michael (66431 posts) at 16 Dec 2004 - 18:54 Reply To This Comment  
Those who projected two hours were DS fanboys. The battlife for the PSP has always been said to be 6 to 8 hours.

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#75 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 17 Dec 2004 - 21:47 Reply To This Comment  
Thanks michael ill try that out later but if people r shooting game fans then they should definetly get the ds. i mean playing with the stylus is awseome and u get metroid prime free which is a great fps. i love using the stylus i might check out the psp depending on the price, i have a magazine that said the psp was 188 when released in japan and it came with a memory stick and other stuff. But im only 14 and im not made of money so ill have to see. i hope they make goldeneye rogue agent for the ds.

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#76 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 18 Dec 2004 - 00:53 Reply To This Comment  
thank u michael i actually bought a tv today and now i can actually do everything and all the different missions so thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#77 Posted by just a bystander at 18 Dec 2004 - 05:46 1 Reply Close Replies To This Comment Reply To This Comment  
The PSP that came with the memorystick is actually a part of a separate package. for like 20 dollars more you get a carrying case and a 32 meg memory stick.

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#77.1 Posted by Michael (66431 posts) at 18 Dec 2004 - 17:49  
  No it's not. The 32MB is a gift with all sony products camera, camcorder PSP all come wiht a free 32MB memory stick. Why would sony charge 20 dollars extra for the memory stick when one can buy that same memory stick for 5 dollars?
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#78 Posted by Matty at 29 Dec 2004 - 10:25 2 Replies Close Replies To This Comment Reply To This Comment  
so ya, as mentioned above, nintendo is coming out with a mp3 mpeg4
http://ds.ign.com/articles/573/573999p1.html

so that gets rid of the mp3 part of the psp being better, now i realize the psp has better graphics, but I personally (being a DS fan) really enjoy the touch screen, and am verrrrrry excited to play rpgs with it, and graphics arnt needed to have a good story line, but it adds alot of inovative features to games, for instance the urbs for the GBA is almost exactly the same as the one on hte DS but the DS has the ability to use the touch screen, and it makes the game play alot more fun

with the ability to play MPEG4 the DS will be able to play videos, now, it wouldnt be a full movie, because you wouldnt be able to fit a whole video on to a flash card but it would be still cool being able to watch say a short music video.

nintendo expects 2.8 million DS units sold world wide by the end of the year

some of the problems encountered so far witht the DS
http://ds.ign.com/articles/568/568084p1.html
http://ds.ign.com/articles/575/575035p1.html

with the PSP
http://psp.ign.com/articles/574/574098p1.html

i think they are both going to do well, i will probably not get a PSP just because i wont have the money, but also at the sites included below you will be able to find some early game lists for 2005 and both systems seem like they are going to be getting alot of games, alot more than i anticipated anyways

for any DS information go to
ds.ign.com
ds.ign.com/news/

for PSP information go to
psp.ign.com
psp.ign.com/news/

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#78.1 Posted by Michael (66431 posts) at 31 Dec 2004 - 13:49  
  Yeah you won't have the money cause you had to shell out more for an adapter. :(
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#78.2 Posted by Matty at 09 Jan 2005 - 23:06  
  I dont see why i would even buy the thing for the DS, i would much rather spend money on an mp3 player, or just get bateries for my mp3 cd player, where i already can fit like 500 songs, then sort them into folders, and its RW so in my oppinion the mp3 playing isnt very impressive, i just put that up 2 show that its really an advantage of haveing the psp as a mp3 player, and I personally am loving the DS games, I was at a party last night, and the metroid demo's multiplayer was more fun(agreed by everyone who played it) then the metroid prime Echoes multiplayer, but we played Echoes more cuz we only had 2 DS's and we had 4 GC controllers
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#79 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 30 Dec 2004 - 21:16 1 Reply Close Replies To This Comment Reply To This Comment  
got ridge racer and spiderman 2 for the ds and they both are pretty good. if u have the ds and u want a good racing game go pick up ridge racer because it is way better than asphalt urban. the grapchics and gameplay are much better on ride racer. asphalt urban is very choppy and not as much fun. spiderman 2 is alright but i didnt see any upgrades from the gba version so i cant recomend it. so ds owners get ridge racer and also sm64.

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#79.1 Posted by Michael (66431 posts) at 31 Dec 2004 - 13:50  
  If you don't want to cry. Don't compare the DS screen shots of Rige Racer to the PSP Screen shots of DS.

I didn't even get that game and I cried. They made Rige racer look like some mobile phone game on the DS.


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#80 Posted by Don\'t waste on DS at 06 Jan 2005 - 00:00 Reply To This Comment  
Isn't all DS games are choppy? lmao, all their games got crappy graphics, make bad games look even worst.
Just about everything on a DS is aim for kids. Look at their pictochat, two kids can send drawing messages to each other at 15 ft. A baby could use it for drawings too. 99.999999% of DS games are for kids. To older gamers, dam just wasted $40 and still can't find a good game. To kids and kids that never touch an PSP, dam these games are so great and best graphic ever on a handheld. Even the DS processors, graphic capabilities, wifi are as slow as a kid's brain, that why they can't see that the Sony will own Nintendo anytime anywhere any platform. The DS released first before Christmas, so it does have a little edge. Who is more to worry than the Nintendo people.

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#81 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 08 Jan 2005 - 01:57 Reply To This Comment  
Yo don\t waste on ds why dont u see how many games are actually out on the ds!!!!!!!!!! there is probably about 11 games out u know why its because nintendo cant launch 100 games in a day. of course there arent that many good games out right now. alot of people aim on the computer so why not do it while ur playin games. No all the games arent choppy either maybe one or two but not all of them. besides these are the first games out for the ds dumbass!!!! Also u can be over 15 feet away, u can be over 35 to 100 feet. for writing a bad review about the ds u sure dont know anything about the ds


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#82 Posted by Don\\\'t waste on DS at 08 Jan 2005 - 04:11 Reply To This Comment  
Look at 11 games of DS and their ratings on IGN. They average 6.47 out of 10. None of the games are good.

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#83 Posted by Don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t waste on DS at 08 Jan 2005 - 04:19 Reply To This Comment  
and at GameSpot average at 6.7 out of 10.

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#84 Posted by Don\\\'t waste on DS at 08 Jan 2005 - 04:25 Reply To This Comment  
Innovation is so great that you get so low rating.

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#85 Posted by Michael (66431 posts) at 08 Jan 2005 - 04:49 Reply To This Comment  
Why don't you guys register don't waste on DS and DS Rules. Be good to have oyu both as members

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#86 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 09 Jan 2005 - 23:00 Reply To This Comment  
Of course the first games for the ds didnt get decent ratings. they are first generation ds games and some of them do have bad graphics(madden 2005) do u remember the first say ps2 games. the graphics sucked compared to the newer ps2 games. ds games in the future will have better graphics. learn some more about the ds before u dis it. i noticed u didnt say anything about the pictochat or about the range of the multiplayer. is this because u know that iam right huh? wat did u say im right huh? yeah iam right dont waste on ds.

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#87 Posted by Matty at 10 Jan 2005 - 00:24 Reply To This Comment  
or an even better comparisation, the PS games when it fist came out, compared to the PS games when they stopped making games for it, (some of hte games were wireframe at teh start) alot of the games dont depend on the hardware at first, as time goes on people will understand the programming language for the system better, and they will be able to make better graphics and use of the features of it, so for the first wave of games, the graphics on it are quite good considering, and for madden 2005 the reason why the graphics are bad is because they just threw the game together very quickly

(http://ds.ign.com/articles/568/568142p1.html) this just mentions how they made it quickly just so it could be out right after release



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#88 Posted by oliver at 10 Jan 2005 - 06:19 Reply To This Comment  
dude u guys r idiots man the psp is hella cool man it is a camera a dvd and an ipod better games better grapics and bigger screen WOW the ds is a touch scrren who cares u neards dont know crap.the reanson it is not so big already is because no one knows about it yet! and i know that for a fact because i own a sony building so compeat with that PUNK!!!!!!

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#89 Posted by oliver at 10 Jan 2005 - 06:30 Reply To This Comment  
no the memory stick is gone now every r making dvds on uvds there starting a new line of dvd players or unlees your dvd player has a small ring in your disck tray so punk that biznitch


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#90 Posted by autobot (1499 posts) at 10 Jan 2005 - 14:56 Reply To This Comment  
screw the psp or ds! nothing beats my original gameboy and all of its 8-bit goodness! 1 4m teh 1337est!!1! lmao!

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#91 Posted by Septimus (4163 posts) at 10 Jan 2005 - 15:01 Reply To This Comment  
*can't believe I read this crap*

90% of you need to learn to spell/type, it was just painful reading this.

@Oliver: you *own* a Sony building? WTF is that about? You can't be more than 12.

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#92 Posted by oliver at 11 Jan 2005 - 00:15 Reply To This Comment  
yo dude stop reading and start searching and im my dad owns a sony building and im 15 bitch so o my god half the people say this crap because they r jelous because they dont have one ya and my name is oliver sony bich


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#93 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 11 Jan 2005 - 00:22 Reply To This Comment  
oliver wat a fag!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol. oliver twist!!!!!!


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#94 Posted by Icco (706 posts) at 11 Jan 2005 - 01:00 Reply To This Comment  
coughcough cough morons cough cough

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#95 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 11 Jan 2005 - 01:19 Reply To This Comment  
whos this icco with cough cough cough cough fuckhead cough cough. hey wow i can do that too!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#96 Posted by Sufian (10588 posts) at 11 Jan 2005 - 02:36 Reply To This Comment  
interesting...

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#97 Posted by cowman at 11 Jan 2005 - 16:02 1 Reply Close Replies To This Comment Reply To This Comment  
hey all you psp fans the ds is way better so what the psp can let you watch movies you could just go buy a portable dvd player and with the ds it would only cost $279.50 and you still sve more than a hundred dollars. and for the ds if you 65-100 ft away from your friend they can send you yhrir game that their playing and you can download it and play them.

so psp stinks and ds will nock psp right of the charts

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#97.1 Posted by Michael (66431 posts) at 11 Jan 2005 - 21:55  
  Buddy oh pal what are you talking about?
279.50 for a DS and portable DVD player is cheaper then 199 for a PSP? I don't get your math.

Also a lot of Nintendo DS game makers are not enabling the Download Game in the US version. Just look at Mr Driller.
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#98 Posted by stupidkids at 19 Jan 2005 - 19:14 2 Replies Close Replies To This Comment Reply To This Comment  
cowman, how do you know psp stinks when you don't own one? I know ds stinks because I do own one.

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#98.1 Posted by Michael (66431 posts) at 20 Jan 2005 - 05:22  
  agreed I own a DS and am not happy
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#98.2 Posted by reby at 06 Jun 2005 - 20:57  
  i totally agree with you, when i got my ds, i was really dissapionted, it wasnt what i expected at all.
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#99 Posted by OnTheRun at 20 Jan 2005 - 20:40 Reply To This Comment  
hey cow brain what good games that has gamesharing? Super Mario, where you run around collecting stars with others on a map small like bed room?

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#100 Posted by DSisDumb at 20 Jan 2005 - 20:47 Reply To This Comment  
It is really dumb, you have 30 secs to collect 5 stars on Super Mario 64 DS multiplayer and there are only 4 maps. This is what you get from GameSharing.

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#101 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 20 Jan 2005 - 22:32 Reply To This Comment  
wat up guys, hey dsisdumb have u even tryed any other games for the ds besides sm64. because all of the other games have awseome multiplayer especially metroid prime, cant wait till that comes out!!!!!!! also i cant wait for 007 goldeneye rogue agent which is comin out on Feb. 7th pick it up because shooters on the ds r extremly fun and i hope it has multiplayer too.

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#102 Posted by Don\\\\\\\'t waste on DS at 23 Jan 2005 - 23:49 Reply To This Comment  
wouldn't you want PS2 games instead of N64 games?

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#103 Posted by Don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t waste on DS at 27 Jan 2005 - 00:53 Reply To This Comment  
PSP will have a text-to-speech utility, a calculator, web browser, email application, a word processor and spreadsheet tool available when the firmware update comes out.

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#104 Posted by Don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t waste on DS at 27 Jan 2005 - 00:59 Reply To This Comment  
Now you know why they have keyboard for PSP. Web Browsing gonna be awsome. You can't browse on DS because of the small screen, but with the PSP's screen there is no trouble for browsing the net and more than enough processing power to view sites with movies, music, ect... Dream Machine

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#105 Posted by Don\'t waste on DS at 27 Jan 2005 - 01:57 Reply To This Comment  
Oh yeah, PSP will have voice chat and 3 free games on the update too.

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#106 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 28 Jan 2005 - 02:47 Reply To This Comment  
wow who the fuck needs all of that, and it dosent have touch screen! there isnt even a set price yet for the psp


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#107 Posted by Don\'t waste on DS at 28 Jan 2005 - 02:56 Reply To This Comment  
Why you want touch screen that much? go with zodiac then, palm or pocket pc.

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#108 Posted by Michael (66431 posts) at 28 Jan 2005 - 23:23 Reply To This Comment  
touch screen in my opinion is intrusive.

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#109 Posted by Alurker (75 posts) at 28 Jan 2005 - 23:26 Reply To This Comment  
PSP Rules DS drools

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#110 Posted by Hudson (1522 posts) at 29 Jan 2005 - 22:33 Reply To This Comment  
OMG WORD. DONT BE HATIN ON DA PSP BRO, COZ WE IZ DA PSP KRU. WE IZ GUNA PUT BEATZ ON U!!!!!!!!111111oneoneoneone. WORD. FRESH. MINT. BOSS.

RADICAL

Yes, i am being sarcastic. Some of you maniacs need to grow up, and stop pretending you are some west coast gangbanger.


WORD

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#111 Posted by OnTheRun at 30 Jan 2005 - 05:05 Reply To This Comment  
who da fuck needs a touch screen?

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#112 Posted by DA MAD MAN at 03 Feb 2005 - 18:28 Reply To This Comment  
PSP set to be released march 27 for 249.99
The bonus pack only tho, also includes spiderman-2 in UMD

Ac adapter
And all the goodies mentioned in the jap website

As for the psp all together, the battery wont last long and some people have been complaining about the buttons getting stuck.

Games are also set to be sold for 39.99 which is about 10 bucks cheaper than the jap game releases which range from 40 - 50 bucks when it was first released.

The system seems to be a goo for next month but good luck because most of the eb's have stoped taking orders because of the amount of requests. The games are going to be sick and no way in hell will the ds keep up with the power that the psp is packin.

But remember both systems are made for two different demographics. DS is more for the teens where as Sony is aiming more for the 18-35 range or something like that.

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#113 Posted by Michael (66431 posts) at 03 Feb 2005 - 22:24 Reply To This Comment  
actually its march 24th for 250

and a stand alone for 199 is expected by xmas
http://www.hardwaregeeks.com/comments.php?shownews=2851

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#114 Posted by OnTheRun at 04 Feb 2005 - 23:43 Reply To This Comment  
hehe 199.99 is under 200 price, very nice. you kids. go play with your gameboy, you are too young to handle a PSP.

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#115 Posted by Michael (66431 posts) at 14 Feb 2005 - 09:01 Reply To This Comment  
More news on the PSP
http://www.hardwaregeeks.com/comments.php?shownews=2883

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#116 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 19 Feb 2005 - 16:18 1 Reply Close Replies To This Comment Reply To This Comment  
wat^ guys. if u own a ds u need to buy warioware touched. i know it sounds stupid but this game is so awseome, by far the best game out for the ds. o and if u are wondering if ridge racer or asphalt urban is better get asphalt urban. also ontherun im sure u have a gameboy too so shut the fuck up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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#116.1 Posted by Michael (66431 posts) at 24 Feb 2005 - 15:56  
  I got wario touch but it wasn't all that.
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#117 Posted by OnTheRun at 23 Feb 2005 - 01:39 Reply To This Comment  
Good for you, go play with your DS and your classic N64 games while I'll be waiting for my classic PS2 games on PSP.

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#118 Posted by AnGel Y at 23 Feb 2005 - 03:53 Reply To This Comment  
PSP iz gunna rule Handz down.....it will be able 2 last awhole mivie it last about 5 to 6 hourz battery life...yea it sucks but hey it comes free with a 32mb memory disc so u could put your favorite songz in there when u get bored... Its just gunna sell uot the DS i actually have a Nintendo DS and all da utha Nintendo's and in a couple of weekz im sick of it da ds is nothing special to me sure its great but the psp lookz much more sleek n modern, and it also contains many features. The best part is that the games are much more mature and the graphics are going to be better because the PSP graphics are between the graphics of the PS1 and the PS2 in where the nintendo DS has the graphics of the 64. So all i got 2 say is noone is really expecing it but the PSP os going to slell out the DS and become Big.-PSP LUv-

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#119 Posted by OnTheRun at 25 Feb 2005 - 04:18 Reply To This Comment  
You're right Michael.
Top 2 games for DS are Mario and Wario Touch. Both sux so bad. Any of PSP game can beat those 2 easily. Maybe not Majong, ha.

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#120 Posted by A2Z2N at 03 Mar 2005 - 01:06 Reply To This Comment  
No way, Mario 64 and Wario are the best right now. PSP has same old console games that is less quality than PS2 and don't have a 2nd joystick. Also you have to buy a screen protector and memory stick for it.

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#121 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 27 Mar 2005 - 16:12 Reply To This Comment  
why arent u guys talking about the psp!!!!!!!!!! isnt this wat the whole page is for come on. i got mine the day after the lauch and it is pretty sweet but ive heard many complaints about it. like the dead pixels!!! i have one but if i get anymore ill be pissed off. come on people talk some more? r u guys having any problems!

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#122 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 27 Mar 2005 - 23:19 Reply To This Comment  
dont have any games yet!!! but i will be buying ridge racer soon!!!!!!!


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#123 Posted by mizzle at 29 Mar 2005 - 06:48 Reply To This Comment  
does anyone know how many songs the psp can hold?

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#124 Posted by mizzle at 29 Mar 2005 - 06:56 Reply To This Comment  
because if it can only hold 8.8! (so ive heard) screw it.

buy an Ipod and wait the 30 minute drive home to play your favorite game or watch your favorite movie. instead of buying a whole new one for 30 bucks.

and if you cant wait that drive or airplane ride. ect. GET A LIFE.. ITS JUST A GAME

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#125 Posted by dubiman at 29 Mar 2005 - 07:18 Reply To This Comment  
hey mizzle how many songs does it hold i dont 8.8 i want make dad get me one for the fact it can play movies and display pictures and all you other guys are retard the ds sucks balls play spider man two on the ds then go look at the screen shots of spider man @ some gamer web you freaking homos much better graphics and thats whats going to make it the best who cares if you can talk to random ass people


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#126 Posted by dubiman at 29 Mar 2005 - 08:13 Reply To This Comment  
ridge racer they bought that off ps1 origionally i jerkes i have the freaking thing up my game collection right now its not even about the the gaming really its about the fact that you can put music on the psp and watch dvds and display photos i even heard they are making it able to go on the internet wire less you stupid ds rules the psp probably make more money the play station s always beaten the the nintendo

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#127 Posted by dubiman at 29 Mar 2005 - 08:16 Reply To This Comment  
peace out im going to bed if retards for the freaking psp here is my email adress dubiman63@hotmai.com jack asses

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#129 Posted by mizzle at 29 Mar 2005 - 14:36 Reply To This Comment  
............so.... how many songs can it hold?

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#130 Posted by Michael (66431 posts) at 29 Mar 2005 - 20:20 1 Reply Close Replies To This Comment Reply To This Comment  
the psp holds 0 songs the memory stick can hold up to 1000 songs depending on the size of it

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#130.1 Posted by reby at 06 Jun 2005 - 21:13  
  i thought someone said it only held eight? well 1000 is good to hear, i would still get one though even if it only played eight songs.
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#131 Posted by The ds rules!!!!!!!!! at 30 Mar 2005 - 18:02 Reply To This Comment  
just got ridge racer on the psp its awseome!!! do u know if ebgames is having a deal??? i mean a trade in offer. trade in 3 console games(gamecube, ps2, xbox) and get a free psp game. but i heard that the games r on a certain list!!!! cant wait to get twisted metal head on!!!!!!!!

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p.s. RR is way better than NFSUR!!!!!!! and its cheaper but its very hard to find. went to get it a circuit city and they were out so i went to walmart(lol) and they had one left!!!!!!!!!!!! and they had about 20 or more psp left!!!! so if u cant find a psp go to walmart!!!!

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i have psp and ds and the psp is so much more cooler than the ds by far. You can do so much more stuff and when i play a game i can get up to 8 hours of battery life so thats not even bad cause the ds gets around 10

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