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Old 09-07-03, 07:07 AM   #1
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Lately I have heard from a lot of people. Even people in their 30's that Weed is Safer then Ciggs. That Ciggies cause cancer and Weed just makes you hungry.

Do people now a days not realize that Ciggies are Dangerous because of what your sucking in. Not because of the Nicotine but because of the Chemicals your sucking in. And your sucking in a lot of Chemicals even though Ciggies have filters.

Lets say your smoking a joint. Which doesn't have a filter. Wouldn't you be sucking in More Chemicals? Tar, Ash, Carbon. All attaching it self to your lungs. No filter stopping any of it. Just sucking it him letting it travel through your airways. Down to your lungs. Having it clog up your air ways just like grease build up in your sinks pipe. Just one problem. No Drano to clear your airways.

So why do people insist that weed doesn't affect their lungs or can't cause cancer?

Smoking anything can cause cancer, (Read those of you who claim otherwise).

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In the study, researchers examined samples of respiratory tract tissue from participants who ranged in age from 21 to 50. To be eligible, the participants had to be in one or more of the following categories: Marijuana smokers who smoked an average of 10 or more marijuana cigarettes a week for the last five years or longer; crack cocaine smokers who smoked one gram or more of crack cocaine a week for nine months or longer within the past year; or tobacco smokers who smoked 20 cigarettes or more a day for the last five years.

Hmmm you had to smoke 10 marijuan joints to be in the study but 20 cigarettes. Makes you wonder.

Also tons of people claim marijuana kills brain cells. Then you have tons more claiming it doesn't. Doctors will tell you it does. Various governments not just the US government but a lot of other governments say It does. But let me show you something interesting a found.

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Studies show no long-term brain damage caused by marijuana use. They do show that users of marijuana are slightly less able to adapt to changing rules in tests. This in itself is not a terrible handicap. But users do tend to lose their motivation. Many heavy marijuana users do badly at work, drop out of school, and develop psychiatric problems. But does marijuana cause these problems or do troubled individuals gravitate toward marijuana? One thing is certain: nobody can excel, or even cope with ordinary study or work tasks while under the influence. Heavy alcohol users demonstrate a similar lack of motivation.

That quote sounds like it contradict it self. No it doesn't kill brain cells. But yes it makes you stupid.

A lot of people argue that Alcohol is legal. Why can't Marijuana be legal?

Well I tell you people to learn history. There was a time when Alcohol was illegal. And during that time gang bangers would sell it on corners so to say like they do weed now.

People argue that more people die from Liquor then from weed.

Well more people DRINK because its not illegal to Drink anymore. But lets say Marijuana is Legalized or any other drug is legalized for that matter. And Marijuana is sold in stores. Then I am positive more cases will appear from people who die from weed.

Here is stats from a Canadian study before weed was legal
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A survey conducted by the Canadian Centre on Substance Abuse revealed that during 1995, 802 deaths in Canada could be attributed to illegal marijuana use and other illicit drugs. These deaths were a result of suicide, poisoning (overdoses). During the same period, 8701 Canadians died because of alcohol use. The causes of death included alcohol poisoning, cirrhosis of the liver, violent behavior, and car accidents involving alcohol. During the same period, 45,500 Canadians died because they smoked cigarettes, largely from lung cancer. To be fair, of the three substances, the latter two are legal and considered socially acceptable and are therefore consumed by far more Canadians than marijuana and other illicit drugs.
(not sure how accurate those stats are)

Now the quote makes a valid Point. More people do die from Cigarettes and Alcohol. But you got to remember. You can buy alcohol and cigarettes from your neighborhood grocery store. More People have access to it. Got to buy weed or other illicit drugs from a crack house, corner or that guy that always seems to have a new car every week. But you also got to wonder how many of those 45,500 Cigarette deaths are really deaths from chronic smoking of weed. (Yes studies show heavy smoking of weed and cocaine can cause lung cancer and you can not tell the difference from lung cancer caused by ciggs and lung cancer caused by smoking cocaine or weed). Also how many of those Alcohol poisoning deaths were really caused by smoking a weed and drinking at the same time. I am sure a lot of Coroners will do a blood test for alcohol see that your level of intoxication is high and right away say you died from Alcohol poisoning so that they can get off work early and not consider what effect any other drug may have had on your system.

Also recent studies in the UK show that aids cases are on the rise world wide because of unprotected taken place when the participants are high on drugs. And nope its not Gay Men getting aids. Its straight teens who know shit about life because their parents are two embarrassed to explain it to them or the kids are just to ****** hard headed.

So what’s going on here? All these Sex Ed Classes And drug education going on in School. Why are so many people un educated about drugs now a days?

Ever watch the god farther? When they started selling drugs. What did the boss tell them??? If you don't remember. I will tell you. (Was forced to watch all the god fathers 100's of times. My aunt was married to an Italian and well lets just say. I can't watch the movie with her or my cousins with out her or them saying. I remember him.) Anyway he said. Don't sell that shit in our neighborhood. (not exactly what he said to tired to remember) Makes you wonder why a mobster didn't want that shit in his neighborhood.

If Marijuana or any other drug can help you medically. Then fine legalize it for medical purposes. But not for recreational use. We legalized alcohol and deaths just went sky high from it. Legalize marijuana you will see the same thing and have a sister organization for M.A.D.D. You will have M.A.W.D. Good thing DWI laws already include illegal drugs. Oh and Drinking while High on weed is a growing problem. My stripper ex GF in Houston has crashed into street signs numerous times. She’s lucky she hasn't crashed into an oncoming car yet. And just recently here in NYC on Eastern Parkway in Brooklyn a man high on weed Hit a women pushing a stroller killing the baby and the mother. The sick bastard drove 10 more blocks before he was stopped by police. The baby was being dragged under his car. When he was stopped he insisted he didn't hit anyone.

And the Reason I Bring this up tonight, is because I found out about an hour ago. That one of my friends from kinder garden was found dead. His sister called me at 4:45 from California. Told me that they did an autopsy and it seemed that he binged on weed. She said they told her it seemed like he smoked so much of it in a short period of time that it literally turned his eyes black.

Anyway I ask again? Why are drugs misunderstood? Why do people tend to ignore the facts about drugs? Why do people claim they don't case harm? Who are these people that claim they don't cause harm? (Bet you they are drug dealers and users) Why do you do drugs if you do?
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Old 09-07-03, 07:44 AM   #2
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You got a very interesting point there, i didn't read all of the text, but i get what you are going at.... and i agree with you.
Some drugs can be very dangerous, just talking about ciggies makes me sick. ( I don't smoke )
A person who thinks smoking chronic is 100% safe is a numbskull... but ciggies are in fact a little worse to smoke then chronic, right??

Hmmm... i guess people can do whatever they feel they have to do...
But some information about the stuff would be nice..
My parents didn't know that ciggies could harm you in anyway, they didn't know you'd get addicted to it, if you used it enough...
That's because they didn't have infomation about what they were sucking in back then, in the 60's i guess...
I guess chronic is kinda the same for our generation huh??

Cool topic btw. I'm rating it.
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ciggies is my word. I own the copywrite. You can't Use it :-P.

But no one can really say weither ciggies are worst then marijuana. The end result if you smoke a lot of it. is cancer. With ciggies you can still drive a vehicle. smoke some weed you get stupid for a while. So says 1 of the quotes I posted.
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Old 09-07-03, 08:07 AM   #5
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mike i'm sorry to say but your friend from Cali is an idiot if she's saying that the autopsy showed he went on a weed binger and it turned his eyes black and that it killed him. once my roomate gets up i'll have some proof of that being incorrect. in order to OD from weed you would have to be eating it versus smoking it. and the amount that you would have to eat is an insane amout.

but to answer the original question. the reason drugs are so Mis-understood is because there are too many stupid people in this world. that is also the reason that drugs are illegal, stupid people.

how you ask are drugs illegal because of stupid people? well there are very smart individuals that do drugs and never have issues with drugs, that is because they are smart enough to do research amout the drugs they choose to do. they educate themselves about the effects of the drug and what the drug will do to them.

but on the other hand these damn stupid people will just do the drugs without knowing a damn thing about the substance. that's why we hear about a 15 year old at a rave dieing on Extasy. his dumb ass was too stupid to relize that taking 5 hits of X might be a bad idea.

i'll openly admit i've done most all drugs known to man, but before doing any said drug i studied up on it. i knew what i was getting myself into, i knew what amount of each was relitively safe. i've never once had a problem with any drug. so for me drugs are very understood.
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That's true.
In order to OD, you have to smoke the same amount of weed as your current body weights...at least a friend told me that, and he reads alot about drugs, cuz he's on them.... or whatever.
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Dunno. Are they self aware?
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