AlphaAlien
11-22-02, 09:14 PM
HardwareGeeks today is bringing all of you an exclusive of Longhorn Media Center and how to make it work in the leaked alpha build. Click Read More for the how-to and screenshots of Longhorn MCE in action!
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AlphaAlien 11-22-02, 09:14 PM HardwareGeeks today is bringing all of you an exclusive of Longhorn Media Center and how to make it work in the leaked alpha build. Click Read More for the how-to and screenshots of Longhorn MCE in action! AlphaAlien 11-22-02, 09:30 PM Screenshot of Artist\Song list with media center running in a window. Notice how properly installing MCE causes the windows vr. type to change from Longhorn XP Professional to Longhorn XP Media Center Edition AlphaAlien 11-22-02, 09:35 PM Main Menu screen AlphaAlien 11-22-02, 09:39 PM My Music Menu AlphaAlien 11-22-02, 09:39 PM Settings\General\UI Sounds AlphaAlien 11-22-02, 09:43 PM What happens when you try to watch TV without TV configured AlphaAlien 11-22-02, 09:44 PM How-to Make MCE Work On Longhorn ------------------------------------------------ 1-Put in the XP Pro CD2 or copy over the components folder from that cd to somewhere on your HD. *UPDATE* I made a fix for the mediactr.cab on the Longhorn CD you can download it here. (http://www.hardwaregeeks.com/download.php?op=viewdownloaddetails&lid=25&ttitle=Longhorn_Media_Center_Tutorial_and_Files) *UPDATE* 2-Go into Control Panel\Add/Remove Programs\Add/Remove Windows Components 3-Uncheck all the stuff you don't want, and check Freestyle 4-When it asks you for the files for Freestyle point it to the cab file in the components folder of XP Pro CD2 or wherever you extracted it to Media Center only seems to recognize the Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II, Emuzed EvcapMaui Device and PVR 250 TV Cards. If you don't have one of these you can still use media center just not some of the TV components. Thanks to Ben Burner(smallbrainer.de) for the info. :) The list of working TV Tuner cards is located in %windir%\inf\medctroc.inf and the media center program itself is in %windir%\ehome lx qu33n 11-22-02, 09:46 PM shweet! took u long enough for the how-to and ss's :p :p phantomAI 11-22-02, 10:09 PM Nice AA, heh wish I had media center...too bad no tv tuner card. How is longhorn? AlphaAlien 11-22-02, 11:08 PM you don't need a TV Tuner Card for MCE, you don't even need a dvd for it. And Longhorn's nice after you mess with it till it's stable Rudy 11-23-02, 02:42 AM Originally posted by AlphaAlien you don't need a TV Tuner Card for MCE, you don't even need a dvd for it. And Longhorn's nice after you mess with it till it's stable ......i thought longhorn was crappy and i shouldnt download it ?? lol jk:rolleyes: Chris123NT 11-23-02, 03:08 AM Originally posted by Rudy ......i thought longhorn was crappy and i shouldnt download it ?? lol jk:rolleyes: Nah its really good. I am running it now as i type this ;). Its very stable to my suprise and looks very promising :D AlphaAlien 11-23-02, 03:14 AM well it's not VERY stable, you have to go to .NET if you want real stability, but it's no worse than 2k pro was as far as stability goes, at least once you mess with it freeza 11-23-02, 04:00 PM ....edonkey? sunnyy5 11-23-02, 08:36 PM How about for those who are chicken to not install Longhorn? How do they get MCE to work? :P AlphaAlien 11-24-02, 02:58 AM they don't to get it to work on XP you need a slipstreamed cd1 and the proper key to unlock the installer to go to CD2 AlphaAlien 11-24-02, 03:02 AM btw, longhorn tutorial is up on frontpage tiger2kn5 11-24-02, 02:05 PM so there's no way to for XP users to have MCE, /me cry AlphaAlien 11-24-02, 03:21 PM XP users can use MCE but it requires a special install key to have the install go onto cd2. You also need SP1 slipstreamed for cd1 stunna 11-24-02, 05:25 PM I installed it then rebooted it now says longhorn media center edition... I run it then after it comes up it stays up for like 2 secs the closes and goes back to windows desktop... I took my copy of windows xp pro slipstreamed it with SP1 then overwrited the files with longhorn and made a boot from that... that is the cd I unziped the cab file then put the path for freestlye to there. SO im wondering what is this xp pro cd2? is this something different that I dunnot have?:o AlphaAlien 11-24-02, 05:54 PM XP CD2 is the MediaCenter and TabletPC CD stunna 11-24-02, 06:31 PM and where can I acquire this from? Rudy 11-24-02, 06:57 PM irc.......... AlphaAlien 11-24-02, 07:47 PM XP CD2 is on MSDN Universal Subscription download area :) koreys 11-25-02, 03:47 PM I have XP CD1 & 2 that I downloaded from MSDN. Actually they are titled XP Tablet PC edition 1 & 2 but I think they are the same as Media Center. Where would I go about find an XP Media Center Key so I could install XP media center. potterface 11-26-02, 07:04 PM How do I uninstall media center edition...Is there something I missed, I removed the freestyle component but it still says "freestyle" on the boot screen and Media Center Edition on the desktop AlphaAlien 11-26-02, 07:09 PM NTSwitch is how you change back to pro os type. Once you uninstall the MCE components it is uninstalled though. CoCaIn 11-27-02, 07:09 PM Yo alpha, I have a question for ya. I used the Tablet PC XP Cd2 and followed all your instructions. I went to open Media Center, and this is what I got. What should I do? Post me a reply, or email me at: jmichael_w@hotmail.com I answer email QUICK, and we can even setup MSN, AIM, or ICQ. (I have Trillian Pro) AlphaAlien 11-27-02, 07:22 PM did you reboot after installing? and how big was the copy of cd2 you downloaded? also did you try running it in xp compatability mode? CoCaIn 11-27-02, 09:40 PM Originally posted by AlphaAlien did you reboot after installing? and how big was the copy of cd2 you downloaded? also did you try running it in xp compatability mode? Works now! Thanks bro. BTW, I added you to my contact list. I hope to talk to you via AIM or MSN sometime soon. AlphaAlien 11-27-02, 11:30 PM glad it worked kooshball 11-28-02, 06:48 PM wait, you have to pay for msdn? where else can i get xp cd2? thx koosh AlphaAlien 11-29-02, 12:24 AM same place you get longhorn drewg000 11-29-02, 06:17 AM Where do you get Longhorn from? Michael 11-29-02, 06:21 AM longhorn has been leaked on irc channels such as irc://irc.elite-irc.net/#betas and irc.winbeta.org Mowzeror 11-29-02, 02:11 PM On my longhorn install, media center is all set and running, however it keeps pestering me saying the display needs to be set at 32 bit color... When it already is. Some times it runs okay, with out the dialog popping up. Other times its just annoying. Its like a messed up 50/50 thing. Good guide though for getting media center working Alpha Alien. Works good. kooshball 11-29-02, 02:32 PM ah, but no one have cd2 of xp. only matrix and he's always queued up. hm... do i want the the tablet cd1 and 2? koosh Mowzeror 11-29-02, 04:03 PM You want tablet xp cd 2, which has the media center files. NewB 11-30-02, 03:31 PM hi all, I installed XP Media Center Edition from the Winbeta 5in1 CD awhile back and boy does it rock. But I came accross this Media Center Scheduler Service ( or one of it's component ) which uses more than 90% of the cpu cycle even when you're not using Media Center. Ending the process in the Task Manager doesn't help because it'll start right back up after just a couple of seconds. Disabling the service would result in not being able to use media center at all which defeats the purpose of installing the MCE over XP Pro in the first place. Has any of you guys experience this or it's just my system that this happens to. Anyways I went back to XP Pro at least until I could get help on how to get around it (if at all). thanks AlphaAlien 11-30-02, 07:17 PM for me the scheduling service has never done that cyteck 12-02-02, 01:02 PM Is there a way in Longhorn to tell MCE witch folder your music, movies, and pictures are in. XP MCE will only read files that are in your My Documents folders. I know you can redirect your My Documents folder but I would like to not use that folder at all. Also is there a way to edit the medctroc.inf to get MCE to use another TV card ie... Radeon All-in-wonder AlphaAlien 12-02-02, 03:25 PM MCE also imports playlists and media files from windows media player. And no one's had much luck getting other TV cards to work ChrisDark77 12-03-02, 05:07 PM Hi All. I've been all over mIRC(#Betas) looking for XP CD2, and/or Tablet PC CD2 and ppl keep telling me that they don't exist, or that I don't need them. I tired installing MCE/Freestlye from my Longhorn3683 CD but when I open it, it opens the wizard, plays a sound, and goes back to the desktop after a sec... My Longhorn works great, but I'd love to see MCE/Freestyle! :) Thanks in advance. ExtctnLvlEvnt 12-04-02, 12:20 AM Can You Install MCE on .NET 2003 RC 1? Just Wondering...........:confused: if so Can You Email me or Post a How to...... AlphaAlien 12-04-02, 12:45 AM never tried, probably can. But you'd have to check in sysoc.inf to see if theirs a freestyle/mce listing. it'd be towards the bottom if it's there ExtctnLvlEvnt 12-04-02, 01:03 AM Is There a Way of putting MCE into XP Home Without Reinstall w/ Slipstreaming? AlphaAlien 12-04-02, 01:08 AM after installing SP1 it's a hidden option in sysoc.inf, but it won't let you install. But if you take the media center files from a default longhorn install (not from the cd), it'll let you install once you've done the sysoc.inf hack ExtctnLvlEvnt 12-04-02, 01:11 AM Sorry to Drag it out But How Do i Find it in the sysoc.inf File i have Looked and Cannot See i have SP1 installed and i have the files From the Longhorn Install Just Need to know How to Do it IF you do know how i would Like to Recieve a How to or More Detailed Info on How To do it Thank You In Advance, ME And Sorry To Bother AlphaAlien 12-04-02, 03:48 PM I don't have XP Home. I could do a how-to for XP Pro though ExtctnLvlEvnt 12-04-02, 05:23 PM ok i have four OS's Running on a 200gig HDD and i run em all so Lemme Get a How To on Any of Em XP Pro Im Not REally Sure how to Do it For Longhorn Yet Either I must Not Be Bright Enough to Just Figure it out right now ....lol ExtctnLvlEvnt 12-04-02, 05:25 PM And if i Can Get it on .NET 2003 I will Let you Know Also AlphaAlien 12-04-02, 06:54 PM how to do it on longhorn is on page 1 of this thread jphughan 12-08-02, 05:29 PM Where do I get XP CD 2? And what's on it? Or could someone email me the CAB file for Freestyle? AlphaAlien 12-08-02, 06:39 PM XP CD2 is the install disc for Media Center and TabletPC, released just after SP1, and you get it the same place you got longhorn. ExtctnLvlEvnt 12-08-02, 07:14 PM I have made a Bootable CD of Windows Media Center it isnt that hard AlphaAlien 12-08-02, 09:10 PM you're right it's not, I should write a how-to on doing both unattended installs and custom installs. ExtctnLvlEvnt 12-08-02, 09:12 PM Sorry about this, but can't do that here publicly. By: AlphaAlien Date: 12/8/2002 Sorry cant Remember what i said but sorry for doing anything wrong... joosu195 12-09-02, 08:05 AM sorry if this sound n00bish but XP pro cd 2? cd 2 wut is that? and can i do the same wit Win xp? joosu195 12-09-02, 08:06 AM erm sry didnt see these last pages here erm really sorry... Michael 12-09-02, 08:09 AM no need to apologize neightj 12-10-02, 02:11 PM If I have the WinXP Tablet PC Edition Install set, disks 1 and 2, then all I should have to do is obtain a Media Center license key and use that when I'm running the OS install to get MCE installed. Right? joosu195 12-11-02, 03:23 PM is the xp pro guide coming any time soon? AlphaAlien 12-13-02, 05:43 AM Originally posted by neightj If I have the WinXP Tablet PC Edition Install set, disks 1 and 2, then all I should have to do is obtain a Media Center license key and use that when I'm running the OS install to get MCE installed. Right? Yes AlphaAlien 12-13-02, 05:44 AM Originally posted by joosu195 is the xp pro guide coming any time soon? when I find a way to do it without hacking through the registry or using longhorn files. joosu195 12-13-02, 09:17 AM erm wuts wrong wit the longhorn files? btw i tried to do that but i couldnt install freestile after editind sysoc.inf cause it sayd it installed an wouldnt let uninstall AlphaAlien 12-13-02, 01:36 PM I just want a way to do it thats simpler for everyone :) joosu195 12-13-02, 01:46 PM actually the one on the cd is soo bugyyy.. tried it on longhorn had to reinstall, even restore didnt help... anyways about the registry part u could make a pach of course but dunno if this is ok wit the forum rules etc... btw is the 5in1 good enough for installing mce on longhorn or can i even upgrade to it from xp pro? joosu AlphaAlien 12-13-02, 03:04 PM oh I said in the first page of this that the mce on the lh cd is corrupt. 22 files of it are corrupt to be exact. 5in1 works. I don't want to do a patch, I want to figure out a simple way for everyone, with no patches, they're just not as clean a way to do it. joosu195 12-14-02, 03:49 AM ok thats reasonable AlphaAlien 12-16-02, 06:21 PM I posted a fix for the longhorn media center cab in the download section joosu195 12-17-02, 06:09 AM All (bow) Alpha:alien:!!! tnx loads (clap)(clap)(clap) He rocks!!! (yeahbaby) AlphaAlien 12-17-02, 06:13 AM LOL :D rickncharlotte 12-18-02, 12:03 AM Now all we need is a guide to get it to work with just XP Pro... joosu195 12-18-02, 02:14 AM hmm sry bout that but forget the patcher untill there is a way to do it on corp caddy 12-19-02, 09:10 AM Does anyone know what kind of remote controll i can use for this, will this on work?? http://www.streamzap.com/products/pcremote/ joosu195 12-19-02, 12:04 PM ATI remote wonder has been reported to work as much as i know thats all caddy 12-20-02, 08:11 AM THX I'll try it out AlphaAlien 12-20-02, 08:28 AM Essentially all remotes should work since the remote commands are just keyboard commands (ctrl-f for fast forward, up/down/left/right for navigation, enter for selection) aStRaLgOd 12-28-02, 07:24 PM I have a prob, when I start MCE, it shows for 2 secs and goes back on the desktop... is there a way to fix that? Thanks in advance :) AlphaAlien 12-29-02, 02:49 AM try running it in XP Compatability mode. If that doesn't work then ehshell.exe may have been improperly installed, a simple reinstall followed by a reboot will fix that. redted 12-29-02, 06:51 AM Where is the downloads section aStRaLgOd 12-29-02, 10:55 AM Originally posted by AlphaAlien try running it in XP Compatability mode. If that doesn't work then ehshell.exe may have been improperly installed, a simple reinstall followed by a reboot will fix that. Well I uninstalled LH but I did some experimentation, so lemme share em with you. I saw that when u installed MCE of Longhorn (The corrupted one), it doesn'T always COMPLETELY uninstall. SO to make it work, I tried sum things. 1- I did as you did in this thread, I merged some MCE files with the Mediactr.cab file of LH. 2- I DIDN'T COMPRESSED IT BACK 3- I tried to copy the contents of the cab file onto x:\Windows\system32\dllcache and C:\Windows\ehome and C:\Windows\system32 (Not knowing the exact location of everyfile, I didn't care) 4- After Windows gave me a warning saying that I replaced Windows files, and blah blah blah, I clicked Cancel. 5- I ran MCE, but I saw that it was freezing when I was trying to run the TV (I think there's a bug in a file, ill explain a lil later). 6- So, if u close it from Taskmanager, if u close the 'ehshell' Process directly, MCE won't be able to restart until u reboot for the only reason that 'ehrec' stays stuck in memory (I tried many many things). 7- Sooooooooo I did some experimentations, and I discovered the faulty file in all the story, at my opinion. 'ehci.dll' is causing the problems. When u replace that file with the LH 'ehci.dll' file, it bugs everything. I even tried to replace all MCE files by their native LH files, but by putting the file (The one u provided in this thread), the 'ehci.dll' that u provided here, with the version 'xpsp1.2600' in x:\Windows\ehome, and guess what? It started just fine, but the TV was still a nag. 8- So After, I said '**** MCE' and I installed the ATi Multimedia center (I have an Ati All in wonder Radeon 8500 DV), the ATi Drivers and the TV capture drivers, and all the crap. Guess what? The Ati multimedia was doing the same symptoms that MCE, when u close it, it stays frozen in memory and u can't close it, even by trying to close the process. So my guess is that there's mebbe an errorerous DLL or something in LH. AlphaAlien 01-01-03, 11:33 PM @redted: it's in the menu on the frontpage @Astralgod: you can't run the TV without either one of 2 things: -a recognized TV Tuner (only the PVR250,300 and an OEM only card are recognized by default) -the tv tuner hack for mce At the moment I can't test out problems with the ATI media launchpad and tv since it's not recognizing that it's hooked up through my DVD player :( I have the 8500LE Also if you close all the eh* processes and explorer, then restart explorer you can run mce again without a reboot. in the future compress it back into a cab, like I detailed in the instructions for it. Mako 01-02-03, 10:48 PM Does anyone have any opinions on which PVR card provides the best performance and/or quality? I am looking at building my own MCE system but am undecided on whether I should try and nail down the all elusive Emuzed Maui card. Thanks Mako 01-02-03, 10:48 PM Does anyone have any opinions on which PVR card provides the best performance and/or quality? I am looking at building my own MCE system but am undecided on whether I should try and nail down the all elusive Emuzed Maui card. Thanks Mako 01-02-03, 10:48 PM Does anyone have any opinions on which PVR card provides the best performance and/or quality? I am looking at building my own MCE system but am undecided on whether I should try and nail down the all elusive Emuzed Maui card. Thanks Mako 01-02-03, 10:49 PM Sorry for the 3 posts. Was getting an error when I submitted. AlphaAlien 01-02-03, 11:01 PM I'd think the PVR300 would have higher quality/performance since it's newer, and normally newer hardware is faster than older, but I've never seen a comparison between the 250 and the 300 fasttech 01-05-03, 06:07 PM Alphaalien, What is the tv tuner hack you are talking about to get the tv part of MCE working? I am wondering if I need to get the Pvr 250 or if you know of another way to get another tv tuner card working. thanks, kh AlphaAlien 01-05-03, 06:52 PM people have asked me why their radeon's don't work with the hack. Right now I'm working on a more generic hack so some more tuner's can work on it, though the TV I/O on gf's and radeon's won't work with it joosu195 01-07-03, 06:11 AM alphaalien i've got a guestion y doesnt it work on corp, and is there a way to fix that without installing windows again (not even upgrade). i mean can i trick it to think i have a retail or smth or actually make my corp into retail somehow? F@oen 01-09-03, 11:29 AM If you want xp cd2 try downloading eMule or eDonkey. There you should find it. Ohhhh by the way, any of you know if the remote control of the extigy works with MCE? kikr18 01-09-03, 10:11 PM I have a Question before I upgrade to MCE. I am currently using the Hauppauge 350 and I have heard that by using MCE, I wouldn't be able to burn vcd/svcd/dvds, that I record. This is the main reason for having a pc pvr instead of a "TIVO" system. If this upgrade is really going to be a downgrade for me, I'd like to know. thanks in advance Avalerion 01-10-03, 01:18 PM naughty boy! Edited by AlphaAlien 1/11/03 Athlonxp 01-20-03, 06:18 PM Originally posted by AlphaAlien How-to Make MCE Work On Longhorn ------------------------------------------------ 1-Put in the XP Pro CD2 or copy over the components folder from that cd to somewhere on your HD. which is the CD 2 of XP? Hi AlphaAlien 01-20-03, 09:42 PM it's the cd that was released after SP1 with TabletPC and MCE, but if you read further down in the instructions you'll see their's another way to do it w/o the 2nd xp cd Killer 01-21-03, 06:42 AM Hi, Can some help me, with this, what is the "best" card to work with MCE, WinTV-PVR-350 sounds good, but i don´t know what is the best things to have in a card like that, WinTV-PVR-250 is good to ? the only thing i see diferent is the MPEG2 Decoder one is hardware another one is software. Why cards like Ati all-in-wonder or pinnacle don´t work with MCE ? With the cards that work with MCE, what card have the best qualaty picture ? Thx a lot for all the info ;) kikr18 01-21-03, 08:01 PM I still never got an answer as to whether or not I could record videos to vcd/svcd/dvd in mce. I am using a pcr 350 and before going to mce, I need to know if its going to @#%! this up. If MCE does indeed record to some proprietary format, is there a work around of some kind to allow movie burning? Thanks again. AlphaAlien 01-22-03, 01:47 AM kikr18: it records to a proprietary format which is a mix of MPEG2 and ASF. So far the only thing that seems to work is InterVideo 3.0 to view, but it can't record them (sorry to people I said windvd 3 to). newer vr's return errors Killer 01-22-03, 03:33 AM Hey AlphaAlien do u know if the card from Pinnacle ( PCTV Pro or PCTV ) can make PVR and if the MPEG2 enconder/decoder is from hardware or is software.... I realy need some help, wich is the "best" card to buy thx a lot |
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